I'm wondering the same things. Looking at getting some new pedals myself and friends are telling me "egg beaters" are the best. I do like "The Candy" pedals because they look like they would offer more support. I'll be interested to see what folks say.
I've used the candy and found them no different than the eggbeaters-just heavier. I did get the creak in one pair last summer after Nate installed new ti spindles, so I sent all 4 pairs I have to Crank for them to do the rebuilds and upgrades-problem solved. LOVE my eggbeaters, especially for cross.
Dave, it all depends on your shoe interface. Technically the egg beater and the candy contact your shoe only at the retention bars. But, many shoes happen to contact the body of the Candy pedal as well. If there is too much contact here then your release tension will be greatly effected. So, you really don't want the Candy to give yo extra support b/c it will make it hard to get out of. I feel the extra body of the Candy is only helpful if you do not clip in and need to stand on your pedal for a bit.
Get ready for this reply Dave. It may be the longest one ever.
I'd love to hear a conversation between you and JayP on this. He runs the candys on most all his mountain bikes if I'm not mistaken. Saw them on the GDR bike and the tandem.
I have used the candy sl and/or candy c for 6 years now. I have put the regular egg beaters c on my sultan a couple years back but I ain't a weight weenie.
My experience is that the pedal body contacts the sole of the shoe and gives extra support over the standard egg beater. I personally have used them with Sidi Dominators and Shimano shoes with little to no issue with the feel of added friction and having trouble releasing out of the pedal as Fitzy mentioned. With both of my shoes the sole material compresses in the area of the "cage" of the candy. It is common for us to double shim the cleat to prevent release issues due to sole interference at the shop for those new to clipless.
I found at Interbike '08 on a full DH run on standard egg beaters and sidi dominators that it felt like the pedal was coming through the sole of the shoe very early into the ride. I had never felt that before with any of my egg beater or candy rides. Traditionally I run flats for DH days but it's what I had. I would have expected the Doms to be stiff enough to incure this pain.
Now I understand your body weight problem, your bike parts are named after food, Candy? Eggbeaters? I recommend swimming with Michelle, nothing like a woman in a bikini to motivate your weight loss...
see more broken eggs and candys then any other pedal.... when i did clip in it was times all the way for me... I really dig the support my plastic fit platforms provide ;)
dave, i have run CrankBro's before they were even a sponsor, many years... never ever had a problem, not even a creek and that is winter/summer and mucho thousands of miles use both Egg and Candy and these days i prefer the Candy as it is easier to stand on before the clip in...i don't feel any additional support with the Candy just like the feel and the platform when not clipped. come on by and borrow some. CB also does a great job with rebuilding them and getting them back to you, like new again.
I was once a dedicated CB fan. After breaking 4 pairs of Candy's my trust was pretty thin, the final straw was breaking an egg beater (on a SS) and having what was left of it impale my leg.
As you probably know I spend considerably more time riding than working on bikes...
Dave: I run Egg Beaters on all of my bikes. Yea, I got creaks on all of them about the same time. What I figured out was that it is the metal egg beater / tine that is digging into your shoe. To fix this, I got the CB Shoe Shield: http://www.competitivecyclist.com/mountain-bikes/product-components/2010-crank-brothers-shoe-shields-5767.463.1.html. This solved the creak.
I have run SPD pedals before, but like the egg beaters, because they are easy to get in and out, where I had problems with SPD pedals and random release under load.
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I'm wondering the same things. Looking at getting some new pedals myself and friends are telling me "egg beaters" are the best. I do like "The Candy" pedals because they look like they would offer more support. I'll be interested to see what folks say.
Can't say about the Candy, but I never felt any EXTRA support on my Quattros than on the egg beaters.
I never have used the spindle kit so I can't comment about that.
I love the weight but dang I can't get over all the stories from enduro guys about catastrophic pedal failure :(
MikeC has had no issues but i've heard of so many others that I have no trust in them.
I've used the candy and found them no different than the eggbeaters-just heavier. I did get the creak in one pair last summer after Nate installed new ti spindles, so I sent all 4 pairs I have to Crank for them to do the rebuilds and upgrades-problem solved. LOVE my eggbeaters, especially for cross.
Dave, it all depends on your shoe interface. Technically the egg beater and the candy contact your shoe only at the retention bars. But, many shoes happen to contact the body of the Candy pedal as well. If there is too much contact here then your release tension will be greatly effected. So, you really don't want the Candy to give yo extra support b/c it will make it hard to get out of. I feel the extra body of the Candy is only helpful if you do not clip in and need to stand on your pedal for a bit.
Get ready for this reply Dave. It may be the longest one ever.
I'd love to hear a conversation between you and JayP on this. He runs the candys on most all his mountain bikes if I'm not mistaken. Saw them on the GDR bike and the tandem.
I have used the candy sl and/or candy c for 6 years now. I have put the regular egg beaters c on my sultan a couple years back but I ain't a weight weenie.
My experience is that the pedal body contacts the sole of the shoe and gives extra support over the standard egg beater. I personally have used them with Sidi Dominators and Shimano shoes with little to no issue with the feel of added friction and having trouble releasing out of the pedal as Fitzy mentioned. With both of my shoes the sole material compresses in the area of the "cage" of the candy. It is common for us to double shim the cleat to prevent release issues due to sole interference at the shop for those new to clipless.
I found at Interbike '08 on a full DH run on standard egg beaters and sidi dominators that it felt like the pedal was coming through the sole of the shoe very early into the ride. I had never felt that before with any of my egg beater or candy rides. Traditionally I run flats for DH days but it's what I had. I would have expected the Doms to be stiff enough to incure this pain.
Sorry for the longest blog reply ever!
Now I understand your body weight problem, your bike parts are named after food, Candy? Eggbeaters? I recommend swimming with Michelle, nothing like a woman in a bikini to motivate your weight loss...
Good stuff so far, thanks!
see more broken eggs and candys then any other pedal.... when i did clip in it was times all the way for me... I really dig the support my plastic fit platforms provide ;)
If you are gonna go with crank bro have a few spares around....
dave, i have run CrankBro's before they were even a sponsor, many years...
never ever had a problem, not even a creek and that is winter/summer and mucho thousands of miles
use both Egg and Candy and these days i prefer the Candy as it is easier to stand on before the clip in...i don't feel any additional support with the Candy just like the feel and the platform when not clipped.
come on by and borrow some.
CB also does a great job with rebuilding them and getting them back to you, like new again.
I was once a dedicated CB fan. After breaking 4 pairs of Candy's my trust was pretty thin, the final straw was breaking an egg beater (on a SS) and having what was left of it impale my leg.
As you probably know I spend considerably more time riding than working on bikes...
Dave:
I run Egg Beaters on all of my bikes. Yea, I got creaks on all of them about the same time. What I figured out was that it is the metal egg beater / tine that is digging into your shoe. To fix this, I got the CB Shoe Shield: http://www.competitivecyclist.com/mountain-bikes/product-components/2010-crank-brothers-shoe-shields-5767.463.1.html. This solved the creak.
I have run SPD pedals before, but like the egg beaters, because they are easy to get in and out, where I had problems with SPD pedals and random release under load.
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